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Resume: Poker Dealer 17 years Las Vegas, Poker Player 30 years Las Vegas 7 years Central America. Been there done that.
Random deal: Bullshit; Mathematically impossible for these bad beats hand after hand.
I could vent for days against these ckskrs, but here are just couple followed by a thought process
Ah yes, jokerstars. Here are a couple of bad beats for you from this low rent scum sucking pig of a crooked site. I have pocket Kings raise 8000 pre flop and the flop comes 2-7-J. I bet 15,000 and the asshole I am up against goes all in for the 15,000 and another 9000. I call, he turns his hand over 9-4. Yep that's right 4 on the turn 9 on the river. like wtf, This has happened to me a number of times. Pocket Aces guy raises 8,000 pre flop I go all in for a total of 15,000. He turns over K-J Diamonds, ok legitimate hand. The flop comes 3-6-9 all black. Yep you are right again Jack on the turn and another Jack on the river. And my asshole puckers up once more. This flopping set's and getting them stuck up your ass by a perfect perfect straight or flush catch is bullshit. 8-2 of diamonds is a going hand now. How the fck was someone waiting and waiting never playing a hand all of a fcking sudden calls your all in pre flop with 30,000 and there whole tournament on the line against my fcking aces and hit the flush. Not only that but I see 8-2 of Diamonds win big hand against other players 3 times over the next 24 hours. The software is so fixed as they claim it is a random deal. Listen they are stealing my money and yours and everybody else's. This site is the greatest con going today. We the players should start up a class action lawsuit against these muthrfckrs and send them running. My guess would be they have there money already hidden and poof, pull Jesus Ferguson and Howard Lederer Disappearing act.
So jokerstars one last thing. Go Fck your selfs
Declare your hand history and stats to uk gaming commission.
Untill 2013 poker site licences allowed deal manipulation but not uk gaming commission they state each card must have an equal chance of being dealt AND LICENCED FKSTARS IN 2013
I've played on a dozen or so sites since 2006. All the big ones before black friday. More recently, Bovada and Merge gaming sites(Carbon and Sportsbook). I also have played many a night of live poker at cardrooms all over the U.S.(L.A. and Tunica, MS. being my favorite places).
The bottom line is this. These sites can't be trusted. Look at how much bull you have to go through just to try and withdraw, and how they dick you around. I remember when Full Tilt started dicking people around on withdrawals, look what was going on. Any site that won't give you your money quickly, beware. Bovada I can at least say, processed my cashouts in a timely manner.
You need to understand that if you play on any online site with any intention other than just being entertained, you're gonna be dissappointed. These sites don't want good players beating the games and taking money out of the sites' coffers. If the bad players lose and lose, eventually they will move on to something else. Look at how big DraftKings and others are getting in the U.S. . That's where alot of people have taken their business.
I've played online for almost 10 years. The same pattern is always there. If I get my money in against a player that needs a card, he gets it. I don't care if it's 2 cards or 8 cards, he's gonna get what he needs.
but if IIIIIIII need a card(an 8+ out draw with 2 cards to come, for example), it's NOT coming. Either the game is purely luck-based and I am the most unlucky player in the world, or something shady is going on.
Tight play doesn't work on the sites. Just play your cards, hope you win, and be entertained. Somebody with an intention of trying to win through good play, I suggest you avoid playing online. Save your money for live play where the deal can be trusted.
They sent me a message stating my account is closed and wont be reopened
because i sent them a message and told them that there a scam and all they do
is send robotic messages pre written scripts to people
odds mean nothing
just now i played a hand ak two others come along to see flop
flop is A 2 K two diamonds (a k)
so i quess ak two pair with chance on fullhouse great hand right NOT!!!!bet two others still stay in
next card another 2 of course what are the odds next card 6 no flush chance
ak bet raise allin wtf !! they both go all in
the other hands are 2 3 diamonds and the other also A K
so two players have ak and the flop both hit ak two pairs the other guy hits a flush draw and one pair
on the flop then next card another 2 trips for the 23 diamonds
get f*ck outta here!! this ain't poker this is puzzlestars
also there odds before a card in the middle is placed
like ak against 24 is like 60/40 or aa against qq 70/30
on pokerstars the one with lesser hand wins way more the that percentage
and don't get me started on stack leaders in tournaments
If you tell your users to chargeback and a bunch of people do it, it will be a massive hit to pokerstars bottom line! Hit them where it hurts!!
I am in the USA and in this "free" country we are not allowed to play poker unless we live in the middle of some god forsaken desert or in some toxic polluted wasteland. So because I want to live somewhere nice with nice weather by the beach, I am not allowed to play poker.
Thus I am forced to use offshore sites, and I have tried out a few and find they are ALL RIGGED! I have TONS of hand histories to prove it. Ridiculous stuff! Watching the videos on your site I see some pretty bad and obvious blatent rigging, but I'm telling you, the sites run by Yatahay/WPN, Merge, Bovada, etc.. are EVEN WORSE!
I won't go into it all because I'm sure you have seen it all. The worst is Yatahay/WPN, they were busted in three different scandals so changed their name. Now they run many many different sites that are all networked, but "Americas" Cardroom was the one I played at and just blatent obvious no-shame rigging, bots, software "bugging" out, etc...
This place is in Costa Rica, they have ZERO regulation, ZERO oversight, ZERO government involvement in the poker business. You don't even need a gaming license there, though you can buy one for 5k from some company that's completely unofficial, just a fancy piece of paper to bullshit your customers into thinking your a legit gaming operation.
Anyway, after being RAPED IN MY ASS on this site, I decided to charge back everything from my credit card (about 600 dollars) and even though I just used some random debit card I bought and loaded at the market, it gave me ALL my money back. So I stuck it to those A-holes and I think EVERYONE should do the same! And not feel bad about it! They have been scamming us and ripping us off, we should not feel bad about taking OUR money back from these swindlers!
PLEASE PLEASE put something on your page telling everyone to CHARGE BACK your credit card and take your money back!!!
This will also have the added effect of getting your account banned so you can never go back!!! Even better! Two birds with one stone!
I am convinced there are no fair sites and will never play online poker again. I am actually a programmer as well and want to create my own site that will be FAIR and HONEST! The only one! Imagine that, if people had the option to play on a fair site, it would put all those scammers out of business! Perfect! And I don't care about ripping everyone off and stealing their money, I just want to have a place to play poker online without getting scammed.
All these sites are run by mafia. Bovada, another HUGE RIP OFF SCAM, is in Latvia and run by the Russian mafia. Yatahay/WPN (aka ACR, BCP, SuperStack, and many others) is run by the latin mafia, not sure which one, but they are down in Costa Rica, lawless ungoverned 3rd world free-for-all.
I even tried Seals with Clubs because I heard from a few sources it was fair. NOT! Same BS, just less players and uses bitcoin instead of fiat currency.
Anyway, my point being, you should list some of the other sites that scam people too because maybe some people don't realize that its EVERY SITE. They are ALL THE SAME! Probably all owned by the same mega corporation and all using the same programmers for their rigs. OR maybe Riverstars just sold/licensed their rig software to others.
Anyway, your site is great! I am with you on this! I am going to rent a botnet soon and DDOS ACR for as long as possible as well. I will probably DDOS some other sites after that. I want these sites taken offline.
I have also been in contact with anonymous to try to encourage them to make this one of their operations. If not, at least enlist some people to help DDOS.
It's time to end this nonsense. They have taken a game I love and ruined it for their own personal gain out of greed and selfishness. This agression will not stand!
Would love to hear your response but I'm sure you are very busy and cannot read all the emails but hoping you read mine.
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Great site! Keep up the good work! Glad to know I'm not in this alone and there are other people out there.
Hi, i have just had a look at your Fuck Pokerstars page and what has happened to me on there over 330,000+ hands played is ridiculous. Is there anything that can be done not only to raise awareness but a governing body to complain to? As i am sure you are, i am 100% certain that the cards are rigged and i hold a maths degree.
Sent a message two days ago asking Andreas to forward his hand history to UK regulator but it is actually Franks hand history dated 18th June 2015 .
Please correct the name in my earlier message and lets hope Frank is willing and able to provide the proof that will expose the fraud.
Its is worth noting that until last year all gaming commissions allowed deal manipulation just as long as it was to random players but the UK regulator changed this clearly identifying the fact that each and every card remaining must have an equal chance of being selected. In short it is now fraud to manipulate the deal.
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I mean the game is surrounded by bad beats, but on this volume? I've had sessions with 12 mtt's or SnG's and on every session i saw the same **** over and over again. I never run good on the site , NEVER!
If i watch online pro streams or sessions i see bad beats , but not at the same volume i get them..
Online is rigged 100 % some people are rigged 100 % some people less.
I have 15 bbs and a tight player (HUD) , so players know im tight if they pay attention or use a hud.
I raise utg allin with ak suited, a player next to me (who is tight/nit) and he calls my allin for around 12 bbs . He calles with 47 suited and hit his runner runner straight . (this was deep in a SnG)
Example 2. I play a mtt with 19 bbs, and shove with aq off, a nitty player calles my allin (romanian donkey) with 62 off, and hits his full house. Who the **** does that? My only suggestion is : People who can see other card from other players or the site itself using house players.
Example 3 ($ 15 18 man)
I have 12 bbs, and move allin with qq utg +1. A tight player from Romania again, called a earlier raise and my 3bet shove with j6 suited. Just pause here... Why are you calling me with j6 while you know im a nit and himself is a nit to..? Why?
Flop comes two jacks and turn 6, river brick.
Just tell me if im a donkey or what, because this is a week ago and i still dont get that move..
The site is scamming and rigging honest people of..
I sincerely hope there will be a non rigged site, otherwise online games will be death very soon.
Dont play online, even if u witness players who do make a profit! Because of those players u think u will be profitable, but after your bankroll is gone AGAIN, u will remind me.
Online games are for a few very non doomswitched players. Its a fairytale nothing more, nothing less.
i fake 2-3 years on pokerstars i dont tell you how :d
But POKERSTARS 100% FUCKING SCAM
I know all softvare trick its not variance its not random guys !
one way to suckout this fuckers 1000 players go to isle of man and kick this fakers fuckin ass!!!
This is my personal opinion after analyzing tables in early, mid and late game on texas holdem tournaments 9 player tables, low and high buyins.
First of all, i still play at PS once a while, mostly low buyins, trying to beat the system. Yes, there is a system... a system that's both fair and unfair because i think, after seeing so many hands the way i did lately, that the PS system doesn't favor particular players (although i don't have proof) but on the other hand the system / software is designed to make a tournament run as fast as possible, which is important to PS as far as rake. They want frustrated people who just had their 1000th bad beat running to another tournament asap and thus make more rake to PS. Looking at this with a business-eye i would say i kinda understand this because if i decided to develop a website, i would do so with the thought of making it profitable asap. You can ask yourself to what cost off course.
All I can say is that Pokerstars does this with their eyes closed, caring the least about people's financial health. They just want you to play and if you win, all good, if you loose, all good too, because your part of their system which generates enormous amounts of money.
Now, if you're aware of all this, you can keep playing at PS, trying to go with their system and beat it in a way, although you are never sure to win anything... or quit immediately. Last thing probably is the best thing to do. Pokerstars know that they have made something very attractive and addictive to many. It's software really stands out of the rest. There's lots and lots of different kinds of options to play and technically it's just unbelievably well designed. And that's the problem for many, many players. It's very addictive. And PS knows that. And many players soon forget about their last bad beat, 100th in a week, because of this reason.
Now, what is saw:
I opened 6-8 screens in a particular tournament, after clicking the lowest stack players in the lobby, and watched what happened.
In particular after the buyin period, in mid-tournament, before the bubble, was bad beat after bad beat. Almost 90% of the time in favor of the big stack. So NOT ALL THe TIME!.. i believe PS has software that is very intelligent and possibly works with a times or such, to make it not to obvious to players, what is really going on in the game.
When the bad beat wasn't so obviously set up by PS, i.e. big stack had JJ, small stack AQ, and the outcome was J 10 3 on the flop and A 4 on the river, the table was still there...
But, when the setup was obvious, small stack got KK (so off course time to go all in for their last chance in tournament-life) and big stack 8 8, the big stack scored their triple, and the table closed! All the freaking time. As if PS tries to avoid people chatting too much after such a hand and action card setup. These obvious setups and closing tables is nearly in 100% of the time the case.
And again, it doesn't happen in 100% of the cases, the PS software has to be very intelligent and making use of something like a timer to decide moments to set up plays like this.
Now, you can say, ok i know this, so i won't go all in anymore with my low stack. But let's be honost, sooner or later you will be eaten up by the blinds or the few calls you make just to see if something falls your way. So sooner or later you will have to go all-in or call an all-in.
My advise would be, if you stay at PS and keep on playing, try to build a descent stack before the mid-tournament before the buyin periode closes, and thus increase your chances, maybe by trying a few all-ins early in the tournament. This will give you some frustrations because it will most certainly not always work out ok, but it's better then to grind your way into the mids and struggle with your average or under-average stack, just to see you fall into the same trap over and over again later on in the tournaments. This will leave you with much more frustration.
Best advise would be to quit i personally believe, although i myself still struggle to pull the plug once and forever. That;s how addictive it is. It's actually the same as with all other addictions, you know they are bad for you but you like it too much to give up on it.
But i personally wouldn't mind if Ps would be brought down by some government and get punishment. Because what they do is wrong. It understandable in a business minded way, but in a moral minded way it is obviously theft what they are guilty of. They steal people's money by letting them believe they get a fair game at PS. This is not the case. No way. they use more and more big names, from show business celebs to sport stars, just to suggest that their game is reliable and honoust.
I have just made the best decision of my life, excluding myself from this tilt- and action inducing scam site for 180 days. I have lost nearly 10k in 2 years. At first investing to learn, then getting fucked my 53offsuit after allins. 250k hands should be enough to determine whether I am a winning or losing player. No more Online, only live.
Guys, ladies, do NOT!! Invest a single dime on riverstars!!!!
All the best to you at the live tables and please respond to this mail. I am curious how you coped
DON'T LET POKERSTARS RUN THEIR SCAMS IN CALIFORNIA
I was a victim of the Pokerstars scam many years ago when they banned US players from playing.
At that time, I had a balance in my Pokerstars account roughly $1000. I didn't know about the US ban so I just went and play like I do every day. I was dealt with very high pocket pairs but for some reason I keep losing. When I lost my money and tried to make a deposit, they said I'm not allowed to play, but it happened on the same day. If US players were already banned on that day, then why am I allowed to play with my balance? Why didn't they just tell me that I can't play and let me withdraw? Basically, they scammed the remaining balance from US players and kick them off like trash. I'm certain this happened to many other US players. WE CAN NOT ALLOW POKERSTARS TO RUN THIS SCAM IN CALIFORNIA AGAIN, WE NEED TO BAN THEM FOREVER.
play since 3 Years...there is no chance to win.
If they know, you order new money...you loose even with
3 of one kind or a flash against full house.
Feel like a milked cow,
guess that is the reality !!!
Been playing p stars for 10 years for a pastime....lost lots of money to the same stories you have posted. When I get Aces I run away from the table....who calls all in with 3 5 and catches...all the time. You get all your calls at first, even get in the money...only to lose it slowly playing the same way. tried playing every way possible,,,,played against the "bot computer"......waited for the river call after I go all in ...just long enough to check my cards...then they call and I lose.....this is a bullshit scamming site ...the utmost of a sad joke for us honest players....byte me is my favorite when chatting with the bots fuck pokerstARS NOW I AM ADDICTED AND GOING TO JUMP OF THE ROOF
Well, I have played a lot of poker, poker sites and live poker, and there is no problem at all to see that the cards are different on poker sites.
I think that the dealing is random, but there is with a specific pattern that gives actions at the table. There is so many typical pattern when the card are deal out that I get bad taste in my mouth.
If your account have been put on the loosing strike, you will find this examples to be something you know of.
You just know in live poker you can be on loosing strike to. The main thing you will see in poker sites is that when you loose, you loose to same type of hands every time, and that is the 3 of a kind, flush, or straight or the classic full house. And that is just to strange pattern that just makes you wonder..
Let me give some examples..
1. The typical 2 pair situation on the flop, everything in my body say be aware, this is a typical trap to make you bet, and I promise you that your 2 pair, WILL be beaten by following hands,, straight, flush or 3 of a kind. and usually the 3 of a kind will for the person that are on winning strike come on the flop..
2. The typical 3 of a kind on the flop, will be beaten by straight, or flush.
3. you get straight on flop, only to get beaten by a flush OR full house on the river.
4. and of course the AA, KK, QQ, JJ, 1010, card on your holding hand, Be ware, you WILL be beaten by straight, flush, or 3 of a kind or the classic full house.
5. your AK is not worth anything, you can even get those on the table.. and when you get AK on hands, there is always someone that gets straight, flush, or 3 of a kind or the classic... (you know)
6. you have the winning hand until the river hits.
7. when you try play slow, or tight, you are disfavored big time. You just know you loose. You can sit there folding.... folding..... folding.... and when you try to win a hand, you loose to … flush, straight... or the classic full house..
8. you get flush, only to get beaten by … full house.
9. you get full house only to bet beaten by …. four of a kind..
(to 2 last one, is not so offend, but they happened way to many time on big table just to be pure random)
in real poker this can happens some of the time for sure, but on poker sites this is happening for you EVERYTIME. (when your account is set on the loosing strike)
And off course this is the same for you when you are in the other side, winning hands, but when winning hands just gives you a bad taste in your mouth because you know its the pattern the poker system have set out for you
this is the same pattern on ALL poker sites, zynga, full tilt, pokerstars, and so on..
so why can they keep doing this.. well most because its hard to prove. Best ting is to play live poker, stay the hell out of those god dam cheaters sites that only have one thing one their mind.. profiting from you
People that say that poker sites is no random is just payoff people buy the sites to tell lies. Its is just try play some live poker, and you see very fast that things are very different there.
This site calledpokerstars is truly the riggedest site i'v ever been able to play this is so unreal how the weaker player always have edge and gets there , for example i played 15 dollar spin and go ,
and got somenthing like 10 bb and " good oppenent" have something around 25 bb or so .
so i have 10 bb and button hand dealt k 2 what i shoved cause he folded all the time i shove and i have a blocker . so i shoved and he snap called 2 3 off . flop came KKA i had pretty much lock on hand something around 98 % but pokerstars didn't think so , so heres the turn 4x and river ofc 5 x .
And these storys go on on and on . pretty much pair over pair its almost alywas lower pair gonna hit . this is so absurd when think its pretty much 50 % 50 % soso sick site..
weaker player who have little bit realize how the game works can easily be a proftible player ... se weaker player hop in....
I've played poker for about 10 years now, and ive been up and been down ive broke even. Im down at the moment and have been for the last 12 months and its not looking like its going to change. Ive played all the varied poker types but my favourite is NLHE. Im so sick and tired of the way players treat each other on pokerstars it disgusting, ive been told to get cancer and die that many times that ive lost count. Pokerstars is the best online scam EVER! They sit their own employed players (call them what you like house players, shills thieve) at tables to steal your br and generate rebuys and reloads. These players are not effected by variance so they sit there and win hand after hand after hand with the most ridiculous hands and 1 and 2 outers and the miracle rivers are just astounding. My favourite to date which I have a pic of is AA vs 25o...AA is bb 10k 25o is under the gun one of the mid position players calls and sb limps. AA raises 50k 25o calls, all other players fold. FLOP A2K rainbow.... AA beats 100k and 25o calls. TURN 2... 25o shoves and AA calls and is all in 25o gets some 70k chips back. RIVER 2. this exact same thing happens over and over I have another pic with aa vs 10 5o with 10 5o hitting quad 5s. Before any of you pokerstars employees come on here talking about variance, im very careful not to let my stats get out of control and both these hands I was on 5-9% and the house players would of been on at the very lease 15-20%. wouldn't of happened If variance even existed, Variance is just a bullshit fairy tail made up my ps to explain the complete and utter bingo joke they like to call poker. And please don't start with the why would ps cheat their players... FOR MORE MONEY! For example the $1.65 rebuy sat to the sunday million 9 max. Usually 10-20% of the registered players are house players. if theres 80 registered then at least 8 of them are house players, some are suspected and are called out and mysteriously start to lose most of the time giving their stack to a fellow house player. if theres lets say 7 seats to win then the game has generated $1505 and only has to pay out 1 or 2 seats to legit paying players between $215- $430, the rest go to the house players and into ps pocket. They run this tourney every hour 6 days a week give or take a few games, this sat can get 500 reg players and they generate up to 50 seats, you do the math, just this little baby tourney alone gives ps at the very least 20M a year JUST THAT ONE LITTLE TOURNEY! yes why would ps have house players hmmmm I wonder!
I've been playing pokerstars for about 8 years and in that time have never been able to get on Chat. I can see the chat that transpires during a game but cannot participate. Of course there is not a phone number to call or a specific site to find out how to add this to my gaming. Anyone have any idea about how I can get on Chat?? Thanks
To me was more simple, an opponnent told me what card just fold.
This is my story,
At a final table sit n go ( no matter the amount) I have KT in hand , the flop was 2, 8 and 5. He checked , I checked. Turn appears a 3. He checked, I raised, he re raise, I fold.
Surprise : in chat appears : Why did you raise with KX ?, I got stuck , is that possible??? I don t think so.
After many discussions with operators on poker stars have said that I am guilty , because he got my pokerface.( I play poker about 8-10 years)
Otherwise absolutely all the stories that are published on this site, obviously I went through. There are no discussions .
PS: Sorry for my english.
(Greetings from Romania )
There are a few things i noticed ,when playing on poker sites.
1 when you download software of a pokersite , there's a trojan horse included ,so they can see your
2 put players and autobots on the table ,who work for the site , not only too take your money ,but
also to have control over the laying of cards ,who come on the table.
3 they pull you in a very good hand ,you cannot lay down ,and then on the river you lose.
( i saw in your story , that you noticed that also )
4 some sites it doesnt matter were you are seated ,but some sites ,you have good places and bad places. So if you are going good ,they switch you to a worse place ,sometimes im replaced seats
. 5 times in a row or more.
two theories i have but i cant proof 1 english based sites ,give advantage to english players ,too keep them happy ,and they not going to complain to there own goverment.
2 people like isildur are not bad , but not extremely good, the sites pick people to be there poster boys , mostly they look innocent ,friendly. or what ever reason they have to pick them. isildur was making a few years ago millions , and one year he lost millions.
How is that possible , you would think a good player ,knows how too minimize his losses.
Sorry for the bad english , its not my first language.
My first hand sunday 12-07-2015 275k turney
KK-raise 3bb got called
flop 3-4-8 me oponent checks i raise just one big blind he calls
turn J he checks i do to
river 9 he bets just one smal bet and i just call
HM got 8-8
coincidence is that i just watched some of ur videos and have some previous experience so i didnt bet big on that hand
KK 90% procent loss rate
Got delt QQ. low stack 2500 the other guy 10000 AK
I went all in and of course he did to
So flop 5-10-5-5-5 whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat
and gues what he got A kicker
I am a sick winner. 18,2bb/100 in NL5 and NL10 - NL5 is sligthly higher with 21bb. Whole sample is 700k hands!
Why dont i move up? Well, i beat NL25 too over a descent sample but only with 6bb/100. Yes still fantastic, but the lower the winrate gets, the variance gets stronger and the swings harder.
But i love to make 500$ or more a month with good poker on the micros, so i stay on the lower limits.
Since 3 months now, my winrate is collapsing. My game is still solid, of course i have sessions where i lose two stacks due to mistakes, but overall there are not more flaws then ever. But the boards are ridicoulous. I have a foldbutton, so i can live with ugly boards. Even worse is villains game. In blindbattles i get shoved on with 55 etc. happily calling with KK and AA - winning only 47% of the time [1223 sample], i get 3bet/call.4bet with small pockets that call for setvalue 20-25bb to hit the set, or to peel the flop and hit the set.
In singleraised pots i get called with air, 109 on 2 2 4 [UTG vs. SB] to get drawn out by runner runner 9 9.
I know, that a lot of the results are variance.
But i am not a small 2 or 3 bb/100 winner who has to suffer a lot from swings. I destroyed my limits for the last 700k hands.
It is the first time in years - but i do not feel safe anymore on Pokerstars.
DO NOT PLAY THIS SITE IF YOU ENJOY YOUR SANITY. This site is so ridiculously rigged i am a decent poker player in live tournaments and cash games i'm in no way a proffesional player but my live results are reasonable. I decided to give pokerthieves a chance a few months ago and thought the 3 player spin n go's would be a nice way to have a bit of fun and earn a few extra dollars a day i couldn't have been more wrong. I can give 3 examples just yesterday of how rigged this site is firstly i was all in heads up with a slightly smaller stack than my opponent i had pocket aces he was holding ace/10 the flop hits him with a 10 fair enough then the turn and river the last 2 10's in the deck hit now the odds of this happening are less than 1 in 100. A couple hours later same situation with the stack sizes this time i'm all in with kings my opponent holding queen/jack he catches a queen on the flop and then what a surprise i say sarcastically he catches a jack on the river where he's at best a 5% chance of catching either the queen or jack on the river. The confirmation on how rigged this site actually is came about another hour or 2 after that this time i'm holding ace/king with a slight lead on my opponent i push him all in he calls with 5/7 off suit and low and behold he catches a 5 on the flop and it holds up now he's either the luckiest caller in the history of poker or he knows something i don't. Now i know alot of people will think i'm just complaining about bad beats but the fact is bad beats do occur playing live but nowhere near as often as they do on this site. To make matters even worse when i try to cash out my account the site tells me my bank account number has to be at least 9 numbers but i live in Sydney and Australian bank accounts are only 8 numbers long and when i try to go to live chat to ask about how to go about cashing and closing the account there's never anyone available or the live chat page is unavailable. Just a warning to anyone considering this site don't do it unless you want your money going to a bunch of CROOKS
I just wonna know when are we gonna do something about this fuckin site , concrete ?
This is what i sented them and you may post this on the site allso
I would like to exclude myself permanently !!!
Reason : This site is biggest Joke of the intire history of mankind and i don't wont to be a part of it
Its just so fuckin RIGGED that i don't curse anymore but just begin to laugh at these flops - rivers - turns
The people that don't see this shit are ignorent.
I hope that one day this charade will be unmasked. --and that black friday will be everyday for Pokerstars !!
i'm so fed up with this bullshit , i have a ton off Data on rigged flops , players , statistics.
The Injustice that you bring to all suckout players is unreal !! I know that you guys target me , i know.
Now its for real , i'm serieus. I have done in the meanwhile a full laptop checkup by one off the best IT specialists and we found some interesting material
and allso decoded the Metadata deeply hidden in the system and found all these traces to you're site !! You guys dig everything up , bank accounts , private messages
emails , you name it. For a Poker site ?? lol.
I think that the intire world should know the truth behind these lies , you screwed with the wrong person.
I will not rest before this site is permantly down !!! Because its not Random !!! Cerberus is not enough for you , ooow nooo ........
I've you don't like it , common and sue me !!
i know i cant prove it, but pokerstars is a money making machine with low winning odds and computer controled players. be very careful in falling in the easy money at the begining. they will take you to the cleaners and you will not even notice. often seen the only card that can beat my hand come out on the river and players on the flop with absolutely nothing call high bets to get to the river and win. is it just pure luck or is there a computer behind it? as long as you keep it small and for fun its okay.
Poker stars and 888 are both big scams.
Not gonna write a big story but too many hands like all in with AA only to lose to a 64 etc.
Suck outs happen what seems like more often then not. Players chasing 1 and two outers and hitting way more than the odds suggest.
When my cash I'd gone from these sites I am done with these online scam sites.
I love poker but this is insane. You must play like an idiot maniac to win.
Beg someone somewhere to create a real fair poker site.
I have been playing on poker stars for over 7 years. I could not believe my eyes at how obviously fake this site is. I have experienced it and I am very social and have become very friendly with some great poker players. I have made friends with players who are geniuses' and players who are semi pro. Everyone of them has told me how this site is fixed. Told me the hands the percentages and so on. All are convinced that they have been playing on a set up site. Me myself am also 100% convinced this site is fake. They control if you win or not. Now I will tell you just how much they control it. Me and some friends tried to watch how we were getting set up and see if it can be avoided. Sometimes the fix was in on weekends or long weekends (starting Thurs. thru Sun.) So if you won during the week they would take it all back on the weekends. Also we noticed certain patterns ..seats etc. So with this knowledge we tried to fight back. What I saw next was just crazy . it seems they somehow knew that we were battling the fix, so this is what transpired ..they would give me the greatest starting hands AA KK AQ AK JJ 10 10 etc. Then I would have to play. Ok fine right? ..well ..NO ..I would see the flop and know that I am ahead and raise but by the river some donk ass that at times had 0 on the flop would some how make a straight or a flush on the river. It just kept happening over and over and over again. This is not variance" this was defying logic and numbers. So the site is even worse than people imagine. True greed and corruption. They are criminals and should be locked up. Governments should seize their assets and money and return it to the players. I hate those worthless people at p.s. .Everyone needs to wake up and just stop playing there.
I like to think about myself as a good poker player and maybe my results over millions of hands played on several poker sites can vouch for that statement. I am a winning player even on pokerstars so the decision I've made to write this email comes as a surprise even for myself. I believe I do understand the variation in this game and I tend to look at chance or luck as the unwritten law in poker. It is firstly a game of chance !!! The only thing a good poker player can do is to manage the situation presided by chance to his advantage. That is the case at 100Nl and under.
But even if you are a competent observer and make good use of gained info at the poker table, playing at pokerstars you will know the true meaning of gambling. You will never lose against other regulars if you know them and easily can exploit their tendencies. The ones that make the money for the site are the ones getting it EVERY SINGLE TIME on those 5% pot equity ... so I do believe that pokerstars cannot afford too many winning players as that would ruin the cash flow and the appealing of the game itself.
I do understand that even the best player out there has a chance to lose his entire bankroll. Fortunately this is not my case. But as one interested in the game I have friends that play very good poker and are tremendous winners on other sites .... not on pokerstars though. Not even after 1.5million hands played. Well, on such sample sizes and still getting the worse of it every single time it is the very sign that can make me wonder if there is, somehow, something rotten in Denmark.
Zoom poker, 0.02/0.05$. I get AQ diamonds. I raise the BB, and get reraised to 0.50. I call. Flop - QQ2! Perfect? No! I pass, and get 1,31 bid. I go all in - 6, 48$ and get called. He has KK. Good. And the turn is K! Perfect, huh? How did he called me with QQ on the flop?
It is not okey and I wish I could turn back the hands of time.
All I can say my life is not the same.
Because of pokerstars and other poker apps and site.
I've lost it all and for what. A playing chip.
It was really bad for me because I have OCD. So I couldn't stop cause I just can't
Believe I can't win. For 2 months non stop. No sleeping, eat only once a day. Was all the time playing
I have master all types of a poker player.
Even being a donkey.
Anyway it's a long story but it's too late for me look back.
I hope these people doing this scam will suffer with intense pain.
I also figure out why they can't be stop.
Because they are surrounded with good lawyers and they got the power
And connection. Even someone will sue them the ending will be you were not force
To play and have all policy,terms and guide lines that we agreed before playing.
It's sad but it's the truth.
Only to blame is ourselves but still they we not being honest.
Hi there reader
PLEASE READ THIS WHOLE POST IT'S TO SAVE YOU A LOT OF MONEY
Firstly let's begin with the 'Pokerstars' software/client. Without doubt it's the best. (they ((pokerstars)) can afford this).
Next is the range of games, tourneys etc, virtually no waiting whatsoever.
Great FREEROLLS and the like.
BUT THAT'S FUCKING IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This site is so so fucking clever at getting you you to make a deposit
and even when you don't deposit they will send you free tickets, freerolls, bonus tickets vi email just to get you back in the game.
I have spent close to $3-4000 on deposit's
When I first joined I was cashing in 2 out of 5 games (50/50's and 45players/players games)
I thought I was a good player, haha
Anyway this soon changed when I had to start DEPOSITING MONEY
I know I can play, not the skill of champs, but I can play.
I have cashed in many tourneys, the cards always flop, I win most in all's etc
BUT when it come's to winning the bigger money I ALWAYS ALWAYS GET SCREWED.
EVER FLOP MISSES, EVER ALL IN LOSES AND I NEVER GET GOOD WHOLE CARDS.
All this has happened way way too many times for it to be a 'DOWNSWINGS'
DON'T PLAY AT THIS SITE IT WILL ONLY LEAVE YOU IN TEARS, WITH LESS MONEY AND PISSED OFF WITH POKER.
Poker is a great game of skill but don't think your skill will count at 'RIVERSTARS' and other such names.
On three separate occasions I went all-in with the remainder of my chips with winning hands- the screen was frozen and unable to play my hand. I contacted poker Stars and questioned whether this is done intentionally so that players must purchase chips. Because it was too much of a coincidence. They denied any wrong doing and tried to blame my computer connection - I know for a fact there was nothing wrong with my internet connection on each occasion. They requested info on my computer system - which I declined to give them. I requested reimbursement of 2M chips - they said that refunds are not given. They also said that hand histories of players are not kept. (therefore they could not refute my claims) I flat out told them they are a scam operation. Thanks for having this site - definitely believe that poker stars site is rigged and ripping people off.
I came across your site a long time ago for resurch on these scam sites and what they can acculy do to players and I found it very informative what u are saying then I came across the switch site about 3 days ago I signed up to your twitch and I went there tonight and its not there ? what happened buddie and like u I want theses fuckers taking down I love poker and only live now and it sickens me to death how theses pros and the sites are ripping players off all day long ty for your time tc man
my best friends , the war against pokerstars has begon !!! Everyone that wonts to help me out with my quest getting these illuminatti people down, please contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org because it will gonna require alots of manpower !! .............this is some off emails i received after non stop back and forth questions and complaints about that the software is rigged !!!............read em and wheap !!!
1.ME : basically had a super account that whas beating me down with 5-5 versus my AA at the NEYMAR Finale !! first price whas a dream but the bestards got me down.
Hi, I play poker for five years, during this time were very many bad things happened in the world of online poker. Everything started from the global financial crisis. When I started playing there was many games at High Stakes. Now there are few !!! The decline in online poker came with Black Friday, somewhere was expected to happen. But what is happening today is outrageous entitlement. My opinion is that weak players hit the board in most cases and thus lose much harder than they did before, I believe that the site do that because they generate rake. If the fish would quickly lose shortly site he would no longer have fish and regulars would play each other and so shortly site would close. At tournaments I find it strange how in most cases big stacks win against short stacks, it happened to me (I lost when I was the short stack and I win when I was big stack) and I was very careful when a big stack player is all-in almost every time he wins, it's not strange? Players are fewer because the Italians, French and Spaniards can not play on this site!! The guaranteed prizes in tournaments decreased, increased rake in cash. Something very strange was happening at Spin & Go, 1 million ... those were won by players who just made their accounts or who had very few games. I've played hundreds and I even caught one big buy-in 25x, the highest was 10x. There are too many strange things on this site. In any case I will occasionally play poker online. I do not accept that they will make money on my work and me being a player brake even. Last year I had days when I won between 8 and 12 buy-ins and the next day losing 15. And at the end of the month was break even or + 2BB / 100 in the best case. And I still have a lot to say but I will stop here ... in any case I wish you all good luck. This site made it possible to count more luck than skill. Sorry for my bad english, hope you all understand what I mean about this rigged site.
Post this please, because de dont let me to post
put Milzerian at Name and the title: About JOKERSTARS
I get dealt Q 7 on the big blind. It's just me and the small blind in the hand. Flop comes 7-10-4 rainbow. I make a feeler bet to see what he does and of course he calls. The turn is a 7. So I think my set is good right? Nope. I end up going all-in and come to my surprise, he has K 7. Of course. The Stars neighbor scam never fcking fails...
One more: Two pair scam as always. I get dealt A 3 and I call on the button just to see what kind of flop I can get and I would've folded to any bet post-flop if I didn't hit. The flop comes A-7-3. I'm low stacked so I shove all-in and I get called. I'm thinking, "I got this pot," but not on this pos site. He has A 7 of course and I'm out of the tourney just 4 away from cashing. Yep. Like Magic says, "Random indeed. Fuck no..."
P.S. - I've seen quads flopped with rolling cards (k-k-k) with the fourth card in a players hole cards 3 times within the last month. The odds of that happening? 0.01%. You will never see that live everyone.
i sent poker stars emails saying i was sick to the back teeth of all the donkey hands turning me over me winning on flop getting rivered moving me table when i started hitting hands happening tourney after tourney .playing to games at once my winning cards on differnt table happening alot .taking out money then not winning nothing.give u a small win called a carrot to keep u intersted my abilty is 68 percent play tight game still cant win or hit final table to get the desient money .to many clues telling me that its rigged its not random cards no chance of that .i said to them ia m going to pass all my info to all my freids on facebook over 2000 poeple to pass it on to show what there site is all about and most of my freinds are gamers all over the world got alot of freind that play poker and are not happy with the site at all .they seem to favour the russain players as well just want afair game that all i ask i said to them see that button uve hit on my name turn it off.any time i make comments on the chat in agame about there site they seem to let me win so to make me out i am telling lies or they move me table they monitor all chat when ure talking about them try it u will see am not talking rubbish
it is funny how you do good in first half tournament,, everything goes smooth,your aces hold, your flush hold...than everything changes,you get ITM and and you cant win a hand and than you loose with AK vs A9,, THAN other tournament,chip leader of the whole trney,,two tables left you loose with AAvs QQ, AND SO ON...IS that a variance-I dont know ,you have to ask an asshole like LOL or other diPShits claiming that I have to work on my game and improve,improvement is good thing,but if cheap leader pushes allin AND i called with my KK,, what did I do wrong and shit like that happens all the time.
I HATE WORD VARIANCE,, EVERYONE IS OVER FUCKIN USING IT,,, DOES VARIANCE SUPPOSE TO LAST FOR SOME TIME,,MAYBE FEW DAYS ,WEEKS ,MOONTHS ,,HOW COME SHITY PERIOD FOR ME IS ONLY LATE FAZE OF TOURNAMENT. I dont have a problem in the begining,I even consider my self lucky, I value bet ,I bluff,I float,, I fold if I have to my strong holdings-nobady can hurt me ,,I am the king of tourney---and than it comes ,25 bb have to call allin with my ak,aa,kk,qq, and you get fucked.SO I WOULD LIKE TO PATENT NEW WORD: FUCKIANCE (VARIANCE FOR THE SECOND HALF OR LATE FAZE OF TRNEY)
I am 57 years old and I have been playing all variants of poker for more than 30 years. Stud, omaha, pot limit omaha, razz, holdem, you name it. I am a winner both live and online. I've never played on any other site than PokerStars and there I am good for about 30.000 $. I have played hundreds of thousands hands of live poker and seen some unbelievable bad beats and suckouts. Both in cash game and MTTs. Just a couple of months ago I lost a huge pot in live cash game holding straight flush on the turn against A high flush. We were all in on the turn. My opponent needed K of diamonds to beat me with Royal Flush and K of diamonds came on the river. The good news was that the club we were playing at had a bad beat jackpot so I got more money than there was in the pot. Remember that poker is a game of luck too and no matter how good you are you can be on a losing streak for years and maybe for all of your life both live and online. I have been card dead for six months now in live tournaments and can't win anything but I keep playing top solid poker although all my AA and KK get smashed by far inferior hands. I've seen Royal Flush against quads, quads against quads in live tournaments and cash games and all other one-outer suckouts. Trust me, live poker can be as cruel as online poker.
Is online poker and PokerStars rigged? We don't know because of the lack of transparency. I have never been able to get all hands dealt to all players in one PokerStars tournament. Personal hand history is not enough to see if there are patterns in bad beats, if big stacks win more when behind, if big stacks complete more flashes and straights, if big stacks hit better flops, turns and rivers with inferior starting hands, if ultra-short stacks win 95% all ins etc. I suspect there are some patterns and I am still waiting for PokerStars to prove me wrong.
So how to be a winning player on PokerStars?
I'll share with you how I do it.
1. Learn to fold. Folding premium hands is most difficult thing in poker. Why? Because folding is a defeat and it crushes your ego. "Why should I fold AA or KK on 10-5-2 rainbow flop when reraised?" - you often ask yourself. The answer is simple. You don't have the nuts. All sets and two pairs beat your one pair of AA or KK. Remember, if you don't hit the set on the flop you only have one pair. A good pair, but one pair. 567 flop is even worse, and the worst one is a flop with both straight and flush draws. I've seen so many bad players overplay their AA or KK on tricky flops, turns and rivers, losing all their chips just because they are not able to fold one good overpair. And then they cry how some donkey crushed their AA with 67 suited. I'll tell you a secret. I fold AA preflop when someone pushes all in for more than 20 percent of my stack when I am not in the money. The same with KK. I fold to most reraises. I instant fold AA and KK to a shove on a draw-heavy flop, the same with sets and two pairs. I am always trying not to gamble for more than 20% of my stack.
2. How to avoid bad beats? By controlling the action. You don't control a shit when you are all in. People who suffer bad beat after beat beat have to ask themselves how often they go all in or how often they lose control of betting size. So, avoid going all in and you will avoid bad beats. Especially bad beats on turn and river. "See the flop" is the golden rule. By betting on the flop you can avoid many bad beats on the turn and river. If you get called slow down and be prepared to fold if your hand doesn't improve. Reading the board in poker is a very complex thing.
3. Don't go on tilt, control your inner monkey and don't take things personally. Hide the chat window in the poker client. You are not there to socialize or even worse antagonize, you are there to win some money.
4. When you play multi table tournaments your primary goal is to come into the money. Don't listen to people who say "I don't care about coming into the money, I want to win the tournament." Well, I am telling you, if you want to win tournaments you first have to come into the money. Why? First of all, this makes you a winning not a losing player, you have money to play more tournaments, your confidence is growing and the most important thing: Premium hands win more when blinds are higher, people are more selective when calling, they don't often call with crap hands and you can multiply your stack in no time. That's how you win tournaments.
5. Avoid going all in with AK. With AK you are virtually always flipping a coin. Rather call and see the flop. The same with small and medium pairs.
6. Grind your way through the tournament, don't be greedy and always make sure that you have an escape plan. Keep the pots small and make them big only if you have nuts or second nuts. Sudden reraises from your opponent probably mean that you are beaten. Fold and move on.
7. Don't be a calling station. My rule is:" If I can't 3-bet I better be folding." Information about your opponent's strenght is very important in poker. If you reraise him and he calls, he is probably weak and a fish, he probably doesn't have AA or KK, and by reraising you get information about the other players at the table as well. If you only call then not only you won't know how strong your opponent is, you will get three-four more callers from behind and your strong hand will be worth nothing.
8. Don't underestimate anyone at the table. Even the worst player can get AA and take all of your chips.
9. Money management. For playing multitable tournaments I would recommend having 200 times buy-in in your PokerStars account. If you have 200 $ you can max play 1 $ tournaments. There will be bad beats, you can't avoid them, but you will feel comfortable knowing that losing 1$ is not the end of the world and that you are not busted.
I was playing two tables at once, and in both i had 5,5 and when the flop comes in one table A 2 K, and then in the other table the same 2AK.. i was like wtf pokerstas... if you want i can send the picture
hi i was very glad to come across your site as i have recently been done overby these scum bags at pokerstars. Firstly i won 60 pound and then was told i could not withdraw until i reached 65. Secondly i was told i could not withdraw for 48 hours after my last deposit which i find unbelievable. Thirdly i am still waiting for my free bet 3 days after it was promised to me. 4th every time i played a big hand i poker i lost on the last card on the river. I had 3 queens went all in against a bloke with a pair of 3s last two cards which came ouy yes you got it both 3s. This is a one off bad beat or so i thought then 3 games later a similar thinghappened again. i have given up now they are scum bags and reading some of these stories i am not the only one with these problems or who has been ripped off. i hope my story helps people be aware of these cunts. Donot use pokerstars
OK folks. Until today I have kept my mouth shut. I’ve seen and read many thread online decrying Pokerstars. I have read with amusement the defenders who tell us “we’re just not that good”. Well I’ve had enough and it’s time to talk. Let me get a few things straight in advance before some smartarse comes along trying to shout me down. I am not an idiot. I do not need to “look in the mirror and work on my game”. I’ve been playing poker, live poker, all over the UK and sometimes the world for nearly 2 decades. I am an expert in No limit Holdem, PLO, O8, Stud, Stud 8, Razz and 2-7 TD. I’m an above average Limit player. I have an IQ of 176 which makes me smart. Very smart. I have good reading skills and have played gazzillions of hands. So you smarmy little MicroBobs can wind your necks back in. I played for a living for 2 years and only stopped for the woman I loved. So that’s enough blowing my own trumpet; the short version is I know what I’m on about. Pokerstars is a JOKE. I have histories of many games numbered in the high hundred thousands. My PLO database for example has a tidy 250,000 hands in it. In that particular database I got all in with 70-75% equity 262 times. I won….141 times. That’s 53% wins of 70-75% chances over a quarter million hands. This is just one example of the utter horseshit. Before one of the smartarses starts up; I know what a bad beat is. I’ve seen a 2 outer take a £7000 pot away from me playing live; a pot that would have seen me turn pro many months earlier than a did. But the beats on pokerstars? I see folks catch their only outs, running 3’s on 6th and 7th playing stud. Running 3’s in stud? I don’t know how many of you reading this will understand how far fetched that is, but it sure as hell goes on there. Day after day, hand after hand. The strategy is very simple. Generate rake and let the utter donks win a bit to filter some cash up to the sponsored players. I watch great players, friends of mine, suffer the most ludicrous runs of cards, beats and sessions. I myself recently played my absolute A game for 6 weeks solid. The result? I broke even. Just think about that. 6 weeks. About 70,000 hands or so. I did not put a foot wrong. I got in good all the time. I folded when I should and raised when I should. And I broke even. I got all in at one point playing PLO with, get this, 99.2% equity. And I lost. I could go on and on and on, but the bottom line is always the same. You will not win, even if you’re very very good. So don’t hope to. And to the guy who is about to come along claiming to make a good profit on Pokerstars….two things 1. I think you’re lying and 2. If you are not lying come sit with me sometime because a. you technically owe me money, and b. if you can win on Pokerstars you’ll be a total and utter moron when you sit at my table and I like them very much. Yes it’s fixed. No I’m not rubbish. I was beating tough games before you were a passing thought in your daddy’s balls. D’you get me? -
put 40 euro in ac 2011 cashed 3000 euro 2012 needed money wife fed up off poker all the time put 30 euro in 2 weeks ago up to 250. i get bad beet swings and roundabouts. we all want site where you win all the time.....normally when i lose its because i play hand poor dont ever give free card when you have nuts nuts change .
I found this site researching because I cannot believe what has been happening to me on PokerStars (and on FullTilt)
I've been playing poker long enough to realise that bad things happen and there are such things as bad beats. But if you are an experienced half decent player you take them in you stride, with minimum tilt, and carry on making steady progress.
I don't believe the numbers of Russian players has anything to do with what is going on, anymore than the numbers of Americans who used to be playing on line. You sit down and get dealt your cards regardless of where you are.
What I find hard to believe in the natural order of things, and what led me to this site is the fact of Russians ALWAYS making their hands, regardless of what you hold and how high you bet, raise or re-raise including all-in!
It's been my experience over the years that you want a lucky stupid call to win occasionally, it keeps the player making the mistakes (where we get the FISH term from) but the Russians re-raise with rubbish and ALWAYS make their hands especially on PokerStars. Or call with the same rubbish and get their flops. I've lived with bad beats and split pots to idiots because they are far & few enough between to be a recognisable part of the game. What is happening with the Russians on PokerStars is just unbelievable.
I'm now at a loss. They seem to getting everywhere with this "luck?" so do I just give up a game I've enjoyed for so long, including the losses or where are sites to play on safely?
PokerStars are laughing all the way to the bank and wont want to kill the Russian goose laying the golden egg, so what is the answer?
This is my story. Couldn't post it because it said it was spam. Maybe you can post it for me. This is real, no joke.
I have been wanting to write this for sometime now. I feel that pokerstars is committing a huge violations in the gaming industry and is hurting the future of online gaming. I can only hope and pray that they never enter into the US market again. Let's hope that we are wiser than last time and won't allow these corrupt crooks to rob us blind. If we have to vote them out of the United States through legislation, well, then let's do so ...
I have been playing on pokerstars for almost six years now. I'm currently only playing on the "play money" tables since I'm a US player. I feel that I'm a solid player and know how to calculate odds fairly well and understand the math behind being a good player. I've been playing on other sites online and have made decent money--so in no way, would I consider myself a fish in writing this post.
I wrote pokerstars a few months ago about a few complaints that I had with certain players. The emailed me back quickly (to my surprise) but what i found out later, was that most of the emails that they send back to "their customers" were solely automated emails or copies from a general text; as i received several emails that were identical in wording.
My complaints went unheard and I was always reassured that they were using the correct software and protections for the real money games but sadly, that they didn't regulate the play money tables that much.
This is where I became upset. I understand that were talking about play chips and that these chips are virtually worthless ... That's beside the point! The issue that I had, was the fact that pokerstars intends to sale play chips to their customers and to continue to rob American players. This is a huge scam and ingenious marketing tactics in-my-opinion, to make big bucks.
Pokerstars is yet taking advantage of US players from the Isle of Mann and raping the rest of the world blind. I emailed them concerning the issue with the play chips and was told, in a sort of a nice way, to go screw myself. I was told that play chips were used for "entertainment purposes" only and that we could always reload the free 1000 play chips daily. I understood this when I downloaded the software back six years ago. I also mentioned in my email, that it was wrong to take advantage of individuals by advertising sales on play chips, or by selling play chips at packages ranging around 500!! I asked that if they ever went live again in the US (Lord help us all) would i be able to exchange my fake chips, for the real deal ... (already knowing that this was to make a point). They came back at me with some nasty emails and were very upset with the way that I was questioning their phony operation.
After I received these emails, I started to feel as though I was being targeted. Previously, I had won pretty constantly. I noticed that I would have hands that were too good to be true, or that seemed to be a setup. A lot of the time I was right and would make some crazy laydowns to some huge donks that had made the crazy 1 outters to beat me. But after the emails, I have never seen my luck go so far down or my chips. I literally couldn't win. I mean, I would go sessions without winning a pot. I know that were talking about play chips, but lets think about how easily it is to target someone who plays on the plays chip software or US players: who are you going to complain to about your problems? You can't sue them. What issues are there if they have bots playing against you or if they are breaking international law by cheating ... remember its fake money. I feel as though we can't win. That this is a bad dream.
Retruning back to my poker, I have lost so many times with sets vs. sets, st8 flushes with those one outters hitting, I've had my KK and AA busted all day to 25 and 47. Full houses vs Full houses, st8 vs better st8s and over and over again. The cycle never stops. I guess the only way we can get these guys, is to start streaming this crap online and putting it up youtube more often for people to see the real BS of pokerstars.
We need to fight these guys. Pokerstars will only continue to grow IMO because of the smart marketing practices. This is why they keep bring on huge soccer stars to "play with us nobodies." Just keep your eyes out and lets hope that we can take these guys down. I wish I had a law degree or was registered as a licensed attorney, because I would have a field day with these dudes. If are going to have any sort of online legalized gaming, it needs to be regulated to the full extent by US companies who are responsible for their actions and who are kept under strict control and guidelines.